Siyasat or Pakistan - Srilankan Cricket Team Attacked - Zaid Hamid

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  1. Kaleem

    Kaleem UnderEstimated Staff Member Administrative Siasi Karkun

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    Guests: Zaid Hamid and Freed Paracha

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_8R7_19lVM"]YouTube - Zaid Hamid on Lahore Attacks Part6[/ame]
     
  2. cheekooo

    cheekooo Still together.Still lost

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    compare is not giving equal time to both of participants
    i mean fareed paracha is sitting and listening
    although i love to listen zaid hamid
    but its rude that u invite someone
    n ask him to listen others
    :)
     
  3. Kaleem

    Kaleem UnderEstimated Staff Member Administrative Siasi Karkun

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    LOL, yaar thora saber ker ke betho.

    Initially Zaid Hamid started with long time but then Fareed Paracha got aot of time in 4th,5th and 6th Part. I thought the same but then watch the full program then you wil get it.
     
  4. shikari585

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    Thanks again for posting and sharing the views of zaid hamid ,He mention about the fifth element that they keep quite this time of lahore terror ,but they made lot of noice against Pakistan on Mumbai attack,I think the time will come to rid off this bogas democracy give the benefits to the enemy,this is a good time to involve India in Lahore,but our media like GEO and other include PEA PEA PEA leaders shut their mouthes,we need bold leaders like malaysian prim minister and Iran's Ahmadi nijaat.
    I like the body language and views of Zaid hamid at all,programm anchor need more practice sometimes speak blah blah blah
     
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    enlightened moderators aur agents aur inke fake scholars ki thaa!
     
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    Zaid Hamid zinda bad

    Brilliantly exposed Indian Involment in Lahore Attacks
     
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    PARACHA....... the most controversial person in JI..........

    after Qazi, the intelligence agencies want Paracha or Liaqat Blooch to be the ameer of JI......... so they can later manipulate them based on their "intelligence profiles"
     
  9. tariqmmalik

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    Oh my God. How can our intelligence agencies do such a fascist thing? Only foreign intelligence agencies, such as RAW, CIA, MI6, and Mossad should be allowed to manipulate our political parties, criminal gangs, and everything else. Then, and only then, our peace loving, God fearing, and enlightened nation will progress and be happy. There is just not enough death, destruction, and despair right now. The rulers can and should be a lot more cruel, inhuman, corrupt and injust. There must also be a lot more poverty like Ethopia, Somalia, and Sodan. We must follow people like Hina123 and campaign harder to hand the control of everything over to the foreign intelligence agencies mentioned above. May Zous, Horus, and Kali Mai have mercy on us and guide us. Amen!
     
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    The Host Guy is CRAZY.... He Talks A Lot
     
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    ... did i say that ??????............... NO !

    how do u think the establishments control these political leaders............. does this happen over night or is it a systematic process of keeping an eye on them and than using their weaknesses upon requirement ...........
     
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    YES, implicitly you did say that.......! YES ! YOU DID. @ # $ % ^ & *

    If by establishment you mean the Army, then who do you think controls Zardari? Are some of the Pakistani politicians not controlled by foreign intelligence agencies? We all know who controls Altaf Hussain and the Baloch separatist leaders? I won't even mention Bait ullah Masood and alikes. If that is the case, do you NOT think that our intelligence agencies need to counter that by controlling some political assets in our own country and not be wrong when doing so?
     
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    Zaid Hamid has time and time again exposed hindu piss drinkers. All credit goes to him for being forthright in his views unlike Ghadari and his cowardly coleagues.
    I PERSONALLY THINK THAT IF WE CLOSE OUR BORDERS WITH INDIA AND CUT ALL TIES WITH THESE MESSED UP SO CALLED MONKEYS ( no offience to monkeys) WE WILL SEE THAT THESE DASTERDLY ACTS WILL STOP.
     
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    well said zaid bahi.
     
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    i thiink you are wrong

    i watched all programme..zaid hamid speak 7 min and paracha speak 20 mint./achaaa/blush

    good programme




     
  16. shikari585

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    I like your idea to close our border,but I think its not enough ....
    we have to put barriers across the border of India and Afghanistan like Israel did ,
    help with survillence camera's and radars and kick out all Afghani's including those having ID card of Pakistan,we already pay lot of price for sympathy and humanity.
    it cost us lot of money but 100% chance to save our country for future,the same idea given by Zaid hamid and no body listen to him ,even our streamline media never ever offer him to participate ,just to keep his voice away from the nation.
     
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    Good programme. and I strongly suggest that other channels should invite zaid hamid.
     
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    ehtisham BeTtEr KnOw BoY Siasi Karkun

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    "We are not terrorism experts but since last many years continuous wave of terrorism has taught us many lesson that how to view each act of terrorism in its own frame work. Media and Government stance " Surgical strike of India - Mian Nawaz Shariff is also in danger
    By: Earthman, International Professor
    We are not terrorism experts but since last many years continuous wave of terrorism has taught us many lesson that how to view each act of terrorism in its own frame work. Media and Government stance soon after each act of terrorism has made us semi expert to speculate who would be behind any of act of terrorism.
    Have a look at specific mentality reporters and journalists in media who never bothered to investigate any matter seriously but like work as a blind bull and keep walking in a set direction. For example Aamir Mir, Shahzad Saleem and Najam Sethi always have similar views, and right away raise their finger against Taliban, Al Qaeda, Jaish e Mohammed, Jamaat e Dawa or Lashkar e Jhangvi. Aunty Kamila Hayt a columnists of The News always directly blames students of Muddersah in each case.
    First question is why all above resourceful journalists try to divert attention of authorities from factual culprits. The peoples to whom they blame usually belong to shadowy organizations, which have no proper setup, no media, no internet and no spokesperson who may take responsibility to deny any allegation in a proper news conference. So their baseless reports never achieved any goal, in many cases by the passage of time facts contradicted their allegations or proved to be wrong. There is no accountability of reporters and columnists in Pakistan, so in some cases extremists and fanatics penetrated in media to validate vested interests of their overseas lords. Eminent moles of foreign agencies are well widely visible in controlling media now a day.
    Soon after yesterday's terrorists attack on Cricket team at Lahore, have a look on statements of some of the leading persons
    Salman Taseer said that it is the same group which attacked in Bombay (means Lashkar e Tayaba and Jammat ud Dawah).
    Najam Sethi made headlines in Daily Times that Al Qaeda attacked on Cricket team.
    Aamir Mir reported in Jang and claimed that Taliban or Islamists are behind this act.
    A retired Major Gen and ex interior minister of Mush fabricated a scenario on GEO TV that how peace deals could destroy Pakistan and NATO would occupy Pakistan. His major intention was to justify American invasion rather attack on cricket team. He is the same person who fabricated lever theory being cause of murder of Benazir to save Mush league.
    Statement of Zardari has same begging tone, after murder of Banzir his begging tone was sympathetically viewed as after effects of grief. But now after one year peoples realized that it is his style of supplication.
    Altaf Husain has also same tone to keep pleasing his both lords Zardari and overseas financiers.
    Second question is that Rahman Malik who claimed a few weeks back that his satellite network is watching even bathrooms of terrorists then why he failed to stop such act of terror.
    Why Salman Taseer replaced key police officials and did not paid attention to intelligence reports.
    Terrorists made damn fool to every one:
    Fortunately the sad incidence was seen live on different TV channels, like Samma TV, GEO, Aaj and Dawn TV. So every event was viewed live, and presence of complete footings need no explanation that why Government officials and a few journalists who have vested interests are trying to make fool to everyone.
    Whole terrorist's action was well planned:
    Particularly "post terrorist attack" scenario was very remarkable; it shows how intelligently evaluation of each phase was designed. Those escaped in broad day light in the eyes of cameras and made fool to entire intelligence and police network. This point must be considered as centre of investigation.
    Media was non-stop showing reports of each minute including images of bags, terrorist's jackets, rocket launchers and other stuff. A bag full was also left at a door step of an intelligence officer. Number of terrorists has been balanced with Bombay terrorists of 12 no's.
    Point is whether terrorists purposely left number of bags at specific points to help in crime scene investigation, it is not funny that make and models of ammunition and guns were right away shown on TV channels could be part of terrorist's strategy. Second point is also important that either purposely those ran towards Makkah Colony and Khan Colony. It is well known fact that in both colonies majority of tenants belong to Pushtoon areas or Afghan refugees. So police jumped to arrest hundred of innocent peoples within few hours. Third point is terrorists were shown wearing baggy Shalwar Qameez purposely, which is usually dressed in NWFP areas.
    Technical soundness of the plot could be measured with the facts that a hidden phone call forced to divert route of cricket team, which ultimately brought them in bobby trap. It is out of question to even think that terrorists had no idea that their each action was being recorded and transmitted live on international networks.
    Police was shown handling rocket launchers with bare hands, without any gloves.
    On international scene Indian cricket team was playing abroad, as soon as news of terrorists attack reached, Indian cricketers put hand in their pockets and started to wear black bands.
    Lahore is a head quarter of RAW:
    Everybody is aware that at least 14-16 persons have been arrested being RAW agents from Lahore area within last three weeks.
    It is suspicious that mostly local alleged terrorists belonging to religious groups and who have a fame of anti-Mirzayee ideologies were arrested.
    Same as mostly other so called terrorists in connection with Bombay terrorists attack were already in the custody of FIA, who were later named in Bombay plot. Some were brought from Karachi who were also already under custody, it is well on record. The authorities who have received blow by Lahore terrorists act are their selves involved in harboring RAW agents in Pakistan such as:
    Salman Taseer and his ex Indian wife Talveen Singh, also his media group Daily Times and Editor Najam Sethi was picked by ISI for his involvement with RAW. His wife also has notoriety of being most favorite of Indian media and in bashing Islam.
    SAFMA another RAW sponsored group, whose Gen Sec Imtiaz Alam's brother is sitting MNA of PPP, and Mustansar Javed is also well known agent of RAW. In others I A Rahman and Hussain Naqi are included.
    Hasan Askari Rizvi who is also a flag bearer of India, Iran and Israel is paid employee of a foreign country. Asma Gaillani recently crossed Wahga border many times in search of so called peace. Girl friend of Mush, Madeeha Gohar of Ajoka theatre has also unlimited contacts with anti-Pakistan quarters in India.
    Another agent of RAW Fakhar Zaman has recently been appointed as Chairman Academy of letters at Islamabad by Zardari, his stories of pissing in pants while visiting India are well known, and he recently published two books on father of Salman Taseer.
    When a lot of RAW agents are available to help in harboring terrorists, provide them safe heaven and always sing songs of India then nobody can imagine Pakistan is safe.
    Indian triumph, surgical strike and tit for tat in reply to Bombay attacks.
    There are no two opinions that cricket is the most popular game of Pakistan, peoples love to play and watch on TV's. Every part of society, having any ideology interestingly enjoy cricket. It is not limited to urban areas, peoples living in hilly and for areas have same sentiments.
    Lahore terrorists attack was not a simple traditional terrorist attack; political will of enemies of Pakistan is speaking behind this act, it is also not an act of non-state actors, surely any state resources have been utilized in accomplishment of this terrorists act. Real target was team of Sri Lankan to punish them, terrorists took all measuring precautions that no Sri Lankan may be killed, it was just punishment to warn them that you did not act on our advice, be aware in future. It could also speculate that Sri Lankan's are punished due to defeat of Indian proxy Tamils.
    Pakistan has been thrown out to host any game for at least a decade
    Major rivals of Pakistani cricket are written with hand on wall.
    Threats for surgical strikes are not an old story and Aamir Mir who propagated with directions of Indian surgical strikes is also on record.
    Lobby of RAW and its agents are also well recognized
    Local made guns, launchers and ammunition was deliberately dropped to divert attention dropped at chosen points.
    Terrorists deliberately wore Shalwar Qameez, and moved towards Pushtoon areas of residence to help Najam Sethi in declaring them Al Qaeda, after pointing agencies towards marked areas, terrorists disappeared.
    Strong perceptions regarding involvement of Governor House is top of the list in achieving multiple targets. To weaken lawyer's determination in long march by imposing any kind of emergency, also to divert attention of media from Mian Nawaz Shariff's post disqualification scenario, moreover justification of Governor's rule in Punjab are leading factors.
    In the whole game plan Zardari would have also part of this drama? Governor Punjab who immediately jumped to divert attention of agencies towards Lashkar e Tayyaba and Jamma't ud Dawah is very suspicious statement.
    Nation has strong assumptions that India is behind in planning of terrorists attack and current Government has implemented their ambitions practically. Both are solely major beneficiaries of the situation, who successfully achieved their goals of multiple nature. Even Obama's statement reflects how propaganda machinery effectively brain washed peoples around the globe.
    Their next target could be Mian Nawaz Sheriff, Shahbaz Shariff or any top leader of PML N. Mian Nawaz Shariff who has complained to authorities that according to his sources, PPP has dispatched a gang from Liyari area for attack purposes. Most interesting thing in this regard is involvement of newly elected Senator from Liyari who has strong links with Rahman Dakait.

     
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    Excellent program and analysis by Zaid Hamid
     

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