Shab-e-Barayet Ki Haqeeqat !!!

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  1. sajidrehman668

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    Aasalam-o-alikum
    Hope U r fine bu the Grace of ALLAH
    I m sending U some Links about Shab-e-Barayat and its Reality.
    Please visit these and think about it!!
    May ALLAH give courage and help us to fine the better way to ISLAM.
    AAMIN
    Pray for Me !!

    Shab-e-Barat ki Sharae Haisiat
    ماہ شعبان کے احکام ومسائل - اردو

    Islam Question and Answer - شعبان کا مہینہ


    Please U cane providfe a links that can support this topic.
    thanks for reading
     

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    Bahot Achi Sharing.......... Allah SWT sabko Deen Ki Sahee Samajh
    Ata Farmaye... Aameen Jazak Allah Khair
     
  3. sameer ijaz

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    pata nahi kahan?.........!!!!!!
    Wa Alaikum Assalam

    nice sharing........................
     
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    RoshanSubha Pyaree See Gurya

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    Salam

    yeh to theek hai k Quraan Pak ramzan main utara gaya na k is month main....
    or yeh bhi durust hai k Hazrat Muhammad(P.B.U.H) is month main roze(fasting) rakhte hain...

    to phir is main kya burai hai ager hum is raat jag kar koi bhi ibadat karte hain jis main nawafil, tilawat shamil hoto....
    koi makhsos ibadat nahi hai magar koi ibadat se mana bhi to nhai hai...
    or 14 ya 15 ka roza ager hum yeh soch k rakhte hain k sunnat hai to is main kya burai hai? kyon k bairhal hum is month main kisi bhi din ka roza rakhen yeh soch k k woh sunnat hai to yeh durust hoga....

    to is raat jagne main or ibadat karne main or apne gunahon ki mugfirat karne main kya harj hai?

    hum ager ibadat na karen to nuqsaan hoga lakin ager karen to kya nuqsan hai?
    Allah pak behter jante hain isliye ager yeh waqei fazilat wali raat hogi to bhi hamara faida or ager nahi hogi to bhi Allah Pak ne yeh nahi kaha k raat main ibadat na karo...balke Allah Pak to khood her Raat k liye kehta hai k hai koi jo mujhe mange...
    or ibadat to jab karsakte hain or jitni karsakte hain behter hai... phir kya masla hai sirf yeh k kya parnha hai to us k liye to nawafil hain kyon k woh kisi bhi waqt or kitne bhi parhsakte hain...
    to hum kuch bhi na parhke soke apna nuqsan kyon karen jab hamen jagne main faida hai...
     
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    esi hi logics ko use kar ke mujide bidaat apni bidati kama dusron tak pahonchate hen jiski sharai haisiyat kuch bhi nai hoti sivaye qayas araiyon ke. Allah ne deen ko mukammil kar diya tha 1400 saal pahle ab us men naye naye izafe ku? kia 1400 sal se log deen par nai chal rahe the? agar esa he to Allah ne jo farmaya nauzobillah vo ghalat tha. bidatiyon ke dilon men ajkal chhol uthti rahti he k kia kuch naya kar dalen. dil unka machalta rahta he k kuch esa karen jisse khud bhi gumrah hon or dusron ko bhi karen. yeh sab yahudion or nasraniyon ki sazish he hamare deen ko apne deen jese kar dalne ki.
     
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    Wa Alaikum Assalam

    Aapki Baat Sahee Hai Ke .....Ibadat main Kya Harj Hai ...
    Lekin Bhai Harj Ibadat Main Nahin ..... Harj Isme Hai ke Is Khas Ibadat Ka Rasool SAWW Ne Nahin Bataya.... Agar Yeh Khair Aur Barkat Wali Raat Hoti To Rasool SAWW Sahaba Kiram Ko Zaroor Bata Kar Jate... Aur Aisi Koe Hadees nahin Milti Jisme Yeh Aaya Ho ke Sahaba Kiram Ne Is Raat Ko Khas Jaag Kar Ibadat Ki ...!!

    Rasool SAWW ki Sahee Hadees Hai ke " Jisne Hamare Laye Deen Main Koee Bhi Nayee Baat paida Ki To WOh Ham Main Se Nahin " Ek AUr Hadees Main Hai ke Deen Main Har nayee Baat Bidat Hai Aur Bidat Gumrahee Hai .... Aur Har Gumrahee Jahannum Ki Taraf Le Jane Wali Hai ....... Jab Itni Saaf Ahdees Hain Bidat Ke Barein Main To Phir Hum Kyon Nahin isse Bachein ?

    Ibadat Ka Koee Mana Nahin Karta Lekin Ibadat Woh Qabool hogi Jo Rasool SAWW ke tareeqe Per Ho ...... Ek Baat Bataein Fajr Ke 2 Farz Hote Hain Agar Koee Kahe Ke mene to 3 Farz Parhne Hain To Bataein Kya Uski Namaz Qabool Hogi ? Woh Kahega Mene To Namaz Hi Parhi Mene To Ibadat hi Ki... Lekin Uska Yeh Kehna Kaam Nahin Aayega..... Theek Isi Tarhan Jo Ibadat Ka Rasool SAWW Bata Kar Gaye Hain WOhi Ibadaat Allah SWT Qabool Karega........ Har Raat Tahajjud Parhne Ka Hukum Hai Woh Sabko Parhna Chahiye....... Allah SWT Dua Qabool Karne Wala Hai ...!!

    Ummeed Hai Baat Clear Ho Gayee Hogi............. Allah SWT hum Sabko Sahee
    Amal Ki Toufeeq Ata Farmaye... Aameen


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    Agreed With u Bro..... Well said
     
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  7. RoshanSubha

    RoshanSubha Pyaree See Gurya

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    apke reply ka shukriya....

    hum sirf yehi kehna chahrahe the k ibadat main koi harj nahi...
    or hum hergiz yeh nahi kehrahe k ibadat nai tareeqay se ki jaye ya bidat ki jaye( 2 farz ki bajaye 3 farz parhe jain)
    yeh zahir hai galt hai
    hum to sirf yeh keharhe hain k ibadat or roza rakhne main koi harj nahin hai ager hum ibadat ALLAH Pak ka farman samajh kar or Roza sunnat samajh k rakhen to....
    kyon k Allah Pak kehta hai k Mujhse mango Main donga...
     
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    w.salam
    waisay mujay koe bataey ga ka ya biddat kia cheez hai?
    or kia ya be hamaein RAsool Allah(SWAA) da ker gaey thay?
    ya laffaz kis na ijaad kia tha?
    main tu tareekh-e-islaam main kahin nae para......ajj kal hee ess cheez pa zor dia ja raha hai.....bidat bidat ya hai kia akhir?
    any way App sab ko bohat bohat mubarik ho shab-e-baraat:p
     
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    Rasool Allah SAW Har Jumetar Aur Peer Ka Roza Rakhte The Woh Sunnat hai WOh Hum Rakhein.... Lekin Khas 15th Shahban Ko Maan Kar Roza SAWW Ne Kabhi Nahin Rakhne Ka Hukum Diya ...... Ibdat Har Raat Tahajjud Parhne ka hai.... Kisi Ek Raat Ko Khas Sirf Ramadan Ki Shab E Qadr Main Jaagne Ka hukum Hai Kisi Aur Raat Main Nahin ...!!

    Ab Aur Konsi Daleel Dein.....Bidat Wohi Hoti Hai Jisko Hum Deen Samajh Kar Karte Hain Aur WOh Deen Main Pehle Se Nahin .....!!


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    Hairat Hai Bidat Ka Aapne Parha Nahin Bidat Per Aapko Hadees Ke Refernce Chahiye To WOh Main De Deta Hoon....... Yeh To hamein Sochna Chahiye Ke Hamne parha nahin yeh Na Kahein Ke Kahin AIsa Hai Nahin ...!!

    aur yeh Ajkal zor isliye diya ja raha hai ke Logon ne aajkal Bidati kaam karna bhi zyada shuru kar diya hai ...!!
     
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    RoshanSubha Pyaree See Gurya

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    ohhoooo

    hum 15 ka isliye roza rakhne ka kehrahe hain k Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H) is month main ziada roze rakhte the basssss
    or mumkin hai unhone 15 ka bhi rakha ho to is main bidat kahan se aagai?

    yeh koi nai cheez to nahi hai
    hamare nabi ne kya isliye hum kaarhe hain
    nabi ne yeh to nahi kaha k 15 ka kisi hal main nahin rakhna....
    yeh to nifli roze hain kisi bhi din rakhe jasake hain

    han albata yeh bat theek hai k sari rat na jag k ibadat ki jaye magar tahajud parh k ap karsakte hain jitni ibadat chahen
     
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    Farmane Rasool SAW hai " Jisne Hamare Deen main Koee Nayee CHeez Ijad Ki Jiska Deen Se Koee Taulluq Nahin Hai Tu WOh Mardood Hai " (Saheeh Bukhari 2697)

    Ek Aur Hadees Hai " Deen ke Andar Nayee Nayee Cheeze Dakhil Karne Se Baaz Raho Bila shubha Har Nayee Cheez Bidat Hai Aur Har Bidat Gumrahi Hai " (Abu'daud Kitab Al Sunnah 7064)


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    Jee Bilkul Ramadan Ke Alawa Shahban Hi WOh Month Hai Jisme
    Rasool SAWW sabse zyada roze Rakhte the.... Lekin Logo Ne to Yeh Bana Liya Hai
    ke Bus 15th ke Din Ko Khas Bana Kar Roza Rakh Lete hain Is baat main Harj hai .. ke bus ek din ko hi khas bana kar roza kyon? aur din kyon nahin ? aur Rasool SAWW ke zamane main 15th ko khas maan kar roza nahin rakha jata tha isliye tab mana kahan kiya jata ? agar khas din hota to aap SAW zaroor farmate is din Ki fazilat ko ....

    ok ab zyada bhehas se koee fayda nahin .......... aap karna chahti hain yeh aapki marzi mujhe Daleel dena thi Woh Alhamdolillah mene De di...... Allah Hum Sabko Sahee Raah Dikhaye... Aameen
     
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    RoshanSubha Pyaree See Gurya

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    Nahi HUm behes Nahi Karna chahrahe
    hum to apki baat se mutaffiq hain
    lakin hum bas apki baat nahin samajh rahe the sahih
    hamara point yeh tha k yeh bidat nahin k roza rakhen or ap yeh kehrahe the kisi din ko khas karna bidat hai hum isse ittefaq karte hain
    ap sahih kehrahe hain
    or apka shukriya
     
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    Bus Allah SWT Se Dua Kiya Karein Ke Allah Deen ki Sahee Samajh Ata Karey...
    Allah SWT Jisse Mohabbat Karta Hai use Apne Deen Ki Sahee Samajh Ata Kar Deta Hai .............

    Khush Rahiye............!! Fee Aman Allah
     
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    w.salam
    thaks dill say.......for thsi info...
    lakin daikhain main na app ka aik thread para tha jiss main app ko kisi na Quran say ayaat di thien reply main jis ko app na ya keh ker reject ker dia ka loog Quran ki ayat ko apni baat pa fit ker kay kuch be keh laitay hain ess tara ka kuch tha reply app ka...
    sorry main islamic korner main ziada ati jati nae...:p
    haan tu baat ya hai ka app mujay quran say sabit ker kay show karain ya biddat......
    mujay tu waqiae main kahin nae parah ya laffaz kisi islamic book main
    sweay ess ka ka Kuch logon say sunna hai ka jo loog Anhazoor (swwA) ki ziyarat ko jatay hain tu suadia ki hakoomat na biddat keh ker unn pa pabandi laga di hai .....i mean wo Roza-e-RAsoool(SWWA) ki ziarat nae ker saktay......
    ab ya sab topic say hat ker ho jaey ga lakin i dont think so ka main phir kabi yahan chakar lagaon:p
    tu pochna ya hai ka ager biddat ka assel matlib wohi hai jo app na batay tu mujay ya batain
    ka ager kuch loog Anhazoor ka sath mil ker baithain unn ki suhbat main rahain tu unay shahaba ka darja dia jata hai......unn ka itna ehtaraam kia jata hai baqi tu or koe baat nae na SHahab ki khass yahi hai ka bas unno na ANhazoor ki shubat ki thi......Baqi tu Rasool Khuda na kHutba-haj ul Widda main kaha tha...ka kisi ko kis par koe sabqat nae lakin taqwa ki bunyaad par...
    tu ab ya batain ager wo sab itna darja rakhtay hian app ki nazer main ......matlib wo loog jinno na Anhazoor ki ziyarat ki wo....tu phir ajj sudia ki gorment aisa kuin ker rahi hai wo kuin Un logon ko rokti hai biddat keh ker...
    maybe meri info galat ho.......lakin Anhazoor ki ziyarat kernay ko biddat ka darja daina ya kia baat howe.....
    pllzz zara ess pa be thori see roshni dal dain....
    or han plz ya biddat laffaz ko zara Quran say be sabit ker dain.......main ya bilkul nae kahon gi ka loog Quran ki ayaat ko apni merzi say jahan kahan be fit ker laitay hain....
    hadees main tu changing ho sakti hai.....lakin Alhumdulillah Quran main koe changing nae ho sakti...
    thanks
    Allah hum sab ko seedi rah par chalnay ki tofeeq ata farmaey..ameen
    AT the end threadstart say sorry k main topic say hat ker kuch poch rahi hon....
    umeed hai app mind nae karo gay...
    thanks
     
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    Lekin Pehle Plz APni Info Aap Sahee Karlein Aapse yeh Kisne Keh Diya Ke Saudia Ki Govt. Ne Rasool Allah SAw ki Ziyarat ko jane wale Logon ko bidat keh kar roka hai ? Main Alhamdolillah Saudia main hi hoon ...... zara detail bata dein ke aapko yeh khabar kahan se mili .....

    2nd yeh ke aapne kaha Ka Sahaba Kiram Radhi Allah Anho ko fazilat sirf isliye mili ke woh Aap SAWW ki sohbat main rahe ... To hamare liye yehi kafi hai ke Woh Aap SAWW ki sohbat main rahe.... aur jiski Training Rasool SAWW ne khud ki hum Ambia ke baad unse afzal kisi ko nahin samajh sakte..... ek aur baat aapne Hajjatul vida ke khutbe ki baat boli Bilkul Islam main taqwe ki Buniyad per hi fazilat hoti hai.... Aur Sahaba kiram ka taqwa kisi ke samne bayan karne ki zaroorat nahin hai sabko pata hai un logon ne Deen ke liya kya kuch nahin kiya....!!

    Jab Rasool Allah SAWW ki sahee hadees bukhari aur muslim ki samne agayee to phir yeh kehna ke hamein islami kisi kitab main Bidat naam ka zikar nahin milta to main samajhta hoon isse aage mere paas kehne ko kuch nahin .........

    main aapse ek reference Quran se yeh mangta hoon ke aap sirf Quran ko parh kar ek Rakat namaz parh kar dikha dein ...... kitne sajede karne hain ruku kab karna hai kya kya namaz ke doran parhna hai yeh sabit kardein........

    Hamara Iman hai ke Rasool Allah SAWW jo bhi farma kar gaye hain woh sab Allah ke hukum se farma kar gaye hain ........ Allah ne Quran main yeh baat farma di hai ke hamara Rasool APni taraf se kuch nahin bolta jo wahi ki jati hai wohi bayan karta hai...
    Quran main Allah ne Ahkamat diye hain aur ek insan ko un ahkamat per kis tarhan Amal karna hai Yeh Rasool SAWW ne karke Dikhaya aur Aap Saww ka har AMal Alhamdolillah Ahdees main mojood hai.... Ab jo Ahdees ko hi na mane to woh khud phir sochle ke woh apna Amal kiske tareeqe per kar raha hai...!!

    Ummeed hai baat clear ho gayee hogi ...!!
     
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    Jazzak Allah...............
     
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