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    Indonesia recalls ambassador from Saudi Barbaria over beheading of 54 year old maid.

    Saudi beheading fuels backlash in Indonesia

    By Andrew Higgins,

    JAKARTA, Indonesia — As leader of Indonesia’s — and the world’s — largest Muslim organization, Said Aqil Siraj used to get pelted with angry e-mails and text messages whenever he questioned Saudi Arabia’s rigid, ultra-puritanical take on Islam.
    But the often menacing messages recently stopped — cut off by a single stroke from a Saudi executioner’s sword to the neck of an Indonesian maid in Mecca.
    “Now I don’t get sent anything,” Siraj said. He is glad to be out of the firing line, at least for the moment, but is appalled that it took the beheading of a 54-year-old Indonesian grandmother to quiet abuse by supporters of Saudi-style Islam.
    The beheading of Ruyati binti Satubi — executed in June for the killing of an allegedly abusive Saudi employer — stirred such revulsion here that even the most strictly observant Indonesian Muslims now ask how the guardians of Islam’s most sacred sites can be so heedless of their faith’s call for compassion.
    At least 20 Indonesians, nearly all women, are on death row in the Persian Gulf kingdom.
    While few doubt that Satubi stabbed her boss, the mother of three is widely viewed as a martyr — the victim of a harsh and often xenophobic justice and social system rooted in Saudi Arabia’s Wahhabi creed, a highly dogmatic and intolerant strand of Islam that, in its most extreme forms, helped provide the theological underpinnings for jihadi militants.
    “Some Indonesians began to think that Wahhabism is the true teaching of Islam, but thanks to God, there has been a change of thinking,” said Siraj, who heads Nahdlatul Ulama, an organization with about 50 million members and 28,000 Islamic boarding schools.
    The beheading, which triggered protests outside the Saudi Embassy and elsewhere, “has had a good influence” by accelerating a backlash against harsh imported strains of Islam, Siraj said.
    “Mecca is a holy place, but the people who live there are very uncivilized,” said the executed maid’s daughter, Een Nuraeni, who prays regularly and wears a veil pulled tightly over her hair. “There is nothing in Islamic law that says you can torture or rape your housemaid.”
    Her mother, desperate for money, had worked for three families in Saudi Arabia since taking her first job there in 1998. On trips home, Nuraeni said, she complained of being spat at in the face, beaten, deprived of food and other mistreatment, but kept going back “for the sake of her children.”
    Migrant Care, an Indonesian group that lobbies on behalf of workers abroad, said it has this year already received 6,500 reports of violence, sexual harassment, rape and other abuses against Indonesians in Saudi Arabia. Eighty percent of the more than 1.2 million Indonesians working there are women, mostly maids.
    Indonesia’s government, complaining that it received no advance notice of Satubi’s execution, recalled its ambassador from Riyadh and announced a moratorium from Aug. 1 on labor exports to the Gulf kingdom. Police set up a special unit at Jakarta’s main airport to enforce the order.
    The acrimonious rift between the birthplace of the prophet Muhammad and Indonesia, home to the largest community of his followers, even led to calls for a boycott of Mecca by hajj pilgrims.
    The mood became so testy that when Indonesian Foreign Minister Marty Natalegawa announced that he had received an apology over the beheading from the Saudi ambassador in Jakarta, the kingdom’s usually mute embassy promptly issued a statement that accused the minister of lying.
    Indonesia has traditionally embraced mostly relaxed forms of Islam. But starting in the 1970s under then-dictator Suharto, a flood of money from Saudi Arabia to fund mosques and other ventures helped boost a Wahhabi-tinged form of Islam known as Salafism, which sometimes veered into violent extremism.
    The Bali bombings in 2002 and subsequent attacks in Jakarta were carried out by militants inspired by Salafi extremists such as Osama bin Laden. Nonviolent Salafis, meanwhile, emerged as a political force, helping to found the Islamist Justice and Prosperity Party, or PKS, which won nearly 8 percent of the vote in 2009 .
    Both strands are now in trouble. A wave of arrests and killings by security forces has largely uprooted the organizational foundations of Salafi jihad ideology, although it lives on thanks to the Internet. Abubakar Baasyir, the spiritual leader of Jemaah Islamiah, was sentenced in June to five years in prison for terrorism.
    Meanwhile, the PKS, part of the governing coalition, has been tainted by allegations of corruption and has been torn by internal strife between purists and moderates. Some of its more hard-line members have been purged. “We threw them out” because they “always wanted 100 percent pure values of Islam” and couldn’t compromise, said Fahri Hamzah, a PKS member of parliament.
    Siraj, the leader of the Nahdlatul Ulama organization, studied in Saudi Arabia for 13 years and came to despise the kingdom’s religious and political order, which he describes as “jahiliyyah” — the period of ignorance and hypocrisy that, according to the Koran, prevailed there before the arrival of the prophet Muhammad.
    Salafis, he said, are by no means all violent and many eschew politics, but they “are very hard in the way they think.” He recently wrote the foreword to a new book, “The Bloody History of the Salafi-Wahhabi Sect.”
    Hizb ut-Tahir, a nonviolent organization that wants an Islamic state or caliphate, defended the beheading as legal under Islamic law but called for an investigation into whether Satubi committed murder in self-defense. Ismail Yusanto, the group’s spokesman, said the problem is not strict Islamic justice but the poverty that drives women to work abroad when “their main place is the home.”
    Saudi Arabia, worried by the spread of extremist thinking at home and damage to its reputation abroad since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, has tried in recent years to check the export of militant Salafi ideas.
    But what the Saudi government now condemns as mutant strains have nonetheless put down thin but tenacious roots on the margins in Indonesia, shielded in the past by a reluctance by many to criticize views supposedly rooted in the land of Muhammad’s birth.
    Saudi Arabia is the holy land, so people always used to make excuses for it,” said Wahyu Susilo, a policy analyst for Migrant Care. “They now realize that Saudi Islam is not the right image of Islam.” To protest the June beheading, his group printed thousands of posters saying: “Saudi Arabia — the killing fields for Indonesian women migrant workers.”
    The Indonesian government, under fire for not doing enough to protect its citizens, last month secured the release of an Indonesian maid on death row in Saudi Arabia. It did this by paying compensation of $538,000 to the family of her employer, whom she killed after he allegedly tried to rape her.
    Arab News, a newspaper based in Jiddah, Saudi Arabia, reported last week that Saudi authorities have agreed to spare two more Indonesian maids from beheading, including one convicted of using black magic to hurt her employer.
    At her family’s village near Bekasi, east of Jakarta, Nuraeni, the daughter of the beheaded maid, has received a procession of visitors offering condolences and angry views on Saudi Arabia. Scores of women in the village have spent time working in the kingdom and shared stories of their travails there.
    Even Nuraeni’s elderly grandfather, a sternly devout Muslim who has memorized the Koran and made a hajj trip to Mecca, wants nothing to do with the kingdom. “He now hates Saudi Arabia,” Nuraeni said.

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    Indonesia has become the leader of the Islamic world after this brave move. This is an indirect challenge to Pakistan's former undisputed leading position which stands second behind Indonesia today. The best way to regain some respect amongst the Muslim world and to regain the top position is by attacking Najd as this is the only face saving move left for Pakistan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ​
     
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    The only move pakistan have make today to save face is to come out of US lead war and stop taking aid from abroad.
     
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    Indonesia could take that bold step on beheading of one of her citizen ................ where as Pakistan will keep licking the boots of Aal-e-saud ........who have killed hundreds of thousands in Pakistan with their exported sectarianism and hate material to Pakistan and not to mention the proxy war !!!!!!!!
     
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    what else you can expect from these cowards and hypocrites.
     
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    Dont know when our Kamee Kameen living there will wake up! I know this guy who spend a decade there building a business and in the end was taken by his "kafeel".
     
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    The secular republic of 'saudi' arabia committed the worst by embracing secularism instead of khilafah. But somehow, when it comes to 'saudi' arabia, all i hear is the secular politics and secular establishment of najadi kings. The relationship between far-east and saudi-arabia has been on the low side for quite a while now. The far-east is in favour of bringing about gold and silver in the international trade between islamic countries while 'saudi' arabia backed by the judeo-christian alliance has been resisting such a move. Please go through World Riba Conference There are arabs and arab tribes especially south who have never accepted this imposed secular establishment. Many are imprisoned, not from now but from decades ago. Their crime, opposing secularism and standing for the khilafah. These families are personally known to me. I am aware of at least one high security prison somewhat south of Najran (near border of yemen) run by joint US-saudi collaboration, where people are reportedly imprisoned, some of them more than 25 years ago.
     
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    Thank you brother for the information .......I will check this website in detail ........... Just one question ......... why do so many Muslims believe that Saudi Arabia represents Islam and is the true leader ........when it is not ........... even their govt is puppet ??

    And what about Kingdom........... As much as I know ........kingship is not allowed in Islam ....... Is it ??
     
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    And what about westernised democracy in Pakistan?
     
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    Appearence is exactly opposite to reality. I do not have time to elaborate further here but i suggest you should takeout time to read 'The khilafah, hijaz and the saudi-wahabi nation state'. It tells you how the head of Islam was decapitated through picture-perfect deception, back-stabbing of the 'islamic leadership' of that age and the criminal ignorance of the world of Islam to this subject, which even continues to this day.
     
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    yeh its wrong ..............does it make kingship right now?
     
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    Nope.....Kingship is wrong but if the democracy is also wrong then why r we launching election campaigns for these democratic parties? Does it make sense?
     
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    The real definition of democracy is nothing but the real concept of government in Islam, but unfortunately the real democracy is not implemented anywhere in the world. Brother who will you choose ??? The big shaitan or small shaitan ??? What choices do we have ???
     
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    You are right. Many have dis-agreed with me, so i say to them continue with your effort for democracy. Kingship is even worse. Sovereignty, supreme authority and supreme law making is not the domain of the people. This right belongs to ONLY ALLAH. Any effort to de-sovereign Allah of his originally justified right can and will promote only chaos. This is not only the history of modern secular states, this is also given in your book. But many have eyes, yet they cannot see, they have ears but they cannot hear, truly it is the heart that are dead.
     
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    Either big or small shetan is shetan...Democracy me aap 4 ya 5 saal k liye hukumat bnaate ho opposition bn jati hai jo 5 saal tk aapko different issues pe oppose krti rehti hai jabke Islamic governmental system Khilafah me Khalifa tahayaat select kiya jaata hai yaani koi bhi ose maazool nai krskta jb tk wo Islam k khilaaf kaam na kre aur koi opposition party etc nai hoti ek shoora hoti hai jo Khalifah ko mashwaray deti hai aur agar Khalifa ghalat ho to ose agaah krti hai lekin Khalifa k koi against nai hota jabke opposition party ko moqa chaahiye hota hai k hukumat pe tanqeed kre mukhaalifat kre...Khalifah Allah ka numaainda hota hai jabke democracy me aisa nai...ye bohut thoray se farq batayen warna bohut farq hai democracy aur khilafah me. aur kingship k mutaliq to yahi hai k Khulafa-e-Rashideen (R.A) k baad se so called khilaafat hi rahi jisme koi khalifah apni hi zindagi me apne 2 crown prince bna jate thay jo k kingship me hota hai aur remember Hazrat Ameer Muaviyah R.A ne kayi baar zikr kiya k Ana al Malik yaani mai badshah hun so can we question him?
     
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    Sub theek hay .............. likin yeh batao .......aab kiya kiya jayee ........if you dont have choice of khilafat ??
     
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    Well qaumein apne faislay khud krti hai sb kuch possible hai agar qaum one point pe agenda pe muttafiq hojaaye jb log dictatorship k dor me rozaana democracy k liye tehreek chalaa skte hain wo Khilafah k liye kuch nai krskte? kam az kam select ose kre jo khud hukumat ki tamanna na rkhta ho yahan to hr party hukumat me aane k liye ek dusre k khilaaf muhem chalaati hain aur yahi cheez hume divide kr rahi hai is forum pe dekh lo yar sirf party base pe ek dusre ko jani dushman tk bna chuke hain.
     
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    Bilkul theek baat hay .......... party bases par hi sub chal raha hay idher ........... or kuch to pakkay implanted agents bhi hain .......... but the thing is ..........aap batao ...........kon sa aisa shaks humain nazar aata hay ..........jisay govt ki tamanna na ho..........or jo tamam quom ko ikhatta kar sakta ho?
     
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    the worst monarch in the history , these Monarch the Saudi Family Used Islam to boom their monarchy
     
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    Agar hum dhoondne ki koshish kren to aise bohut se log mil jaayenge jo qaabil bhi honge aur unhen government me aane ka koi shoq nai hoga lekin hum sirf unhen support krte hain jo khud campaign k liye kabhi ek soobay me ajrak pehen kr taqreer krte hain dusre soobay me pagrhi pehen kr taqreer krte hain I mean sab kuch himaayat haasil krne k liye krte hain ab jise khud hukumat ki talab hogi wo iqtedaar ki chakachond dekhte hi awaam ko bhool kr iqtedaar ki rangeeniyon me hi magan hojaayega. Hukumat koi aizaaz ki baat nai hai jo log iski haqeeqat aur faraaiz samajhte hain unke liye ye ek bohut bari aazmaaiysh hoti hai sb kuch hume Khulafa-e-Rashideen R.A k amal se maloom hota hai akhir inqilaab kisay kehte hain.
     

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